JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2010/08/there-are-no-socialists-in-our.html (28 comments)

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jsid-1281843258-393  alan at Sun, 15 Aug 2010 03:34:18 +0000

You know, this reminds me of when we found out there really were commies in the State Department and Hollywood.  

jsid-1281969175-574  theirritablearchitect at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:32:55 +0000

But Marxy isn't going to let FACTS get in the way of his narrative of the "Cult of Conservatives," or whatever he's trying to label it.

A pox on that little shit-weasel.

jsid-1281969293-631  perlhaqr at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:34:53 +0000


jsid-1281969474-120  Mastiff at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:37:54 +0000

Democratic Socialists of America.

jsid-1281978394-848  perlhaqr at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:08:27 +0000 in reply to jsid-1281969474-120

Oh.  Well, at least they're kind enough to clearly label themselves.

jsid-1282014471-873  Phil B at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:07:52 +0000 in reply to jsid-1281978394-848

Why am I getting a picture of the above water bit of an an Iceberg in my mind when I read "70"???

jsid-1281972356-599  tweell at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:25:56 +0000

Grijalva is a co-chair, and he's the Congressman for the Tucson area. Dishing out benefits for votes is his method of staying in power, and it's worked very well for him. Sigh.

jsid-1281974073-851  pdwalker at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:56:32 +0000

Pitchforks and torches and rope, oh my!

IT has come to that, hasn't it?

jsid-1281980204-449  geekwitha45 at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:36:44 +0000

Well, it is one of the paradoxes of liberty.

You're free to be a socialist, but that freedom ends where my pocket begins.  The hand that fishes around in my pocket looking for loot gets lopped off and becomes mine. I'll have it stuffed, and mount it above my mantel.

jsid-1281987524-512  Mike W. at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:38:44 +0000 in reply to jsid-1281980204-449

Geek - Why else do you think the UK is banning knives, swords, and various other sharp tools? They've gotta protect those greedy little hands.

jsid-1281986155-720  David Beatty at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:15:55 +0000

Mel Watt (NC-12).  That figures.  That district is probably the most gerrymandered Congressional District.  Parts of it are as wide as I-85.

jsid-1282015252-212  juris_imprudent at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:20:52 +0000 in reply to jsid-1281986155-720

Ha!  Bob Filner's district out here in CA (51st) - you can't even drive the length of it.  The east/west connector is the mile or so inside the U.S./Mexican border - for 15-20 miles.  At best there is a road on the north edge.  Either end is a pair of nice, safe, Democrat-demographic blobs.

jsid-1282060046-836  David Beatty at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:47:27 +0000 in reply to jsid-1282015252-212

Looks like NC-12 was changed after the last census.  Not quite as bad as it was, but still pretty bad.  Thanks to Brad Miller (D NC-13), my Congresscritter, who helped redraw the maps, and got to draw his own district.  >:o   You may go here to compare district maps.

jsid-1281988012-443  Cynical at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:47:03 +0000

DSA membership may not hurt, but being Kwame's mommy appears to be the kiss of death even in Detoilet... er, Detroit.

jsid-1281988532-915  Fill at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:55:34 +0000

The list is of the Progressive Caucus, which isn't affiliated with any socialist organization.  Spun-up half-truth from WND. 
Discussion @ http://www.theguncounter.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13154

jsid-1281990589-95  khbaker at Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:29:49 +0000 in reply to jsid-1281988532-915

Yeah, I kinda figured.

I'll stick a disclaimer on it when I get home.

I have no personal doubt that members of the "Progressive Caucus" are indistinguishable from "Democratic Socialists of America," but they just won't come out and state it (excepting Bernie Sanders.)

Words of wisdom from Chris Byrne:

"Now, once again, let me state an important political principle.

"When you use an argument, or cite a "fact" that you haven't done the research on, you make yourself look like and idiot, and you hurt your own side.

"When you make a provably false statement, you make yourself look like an idiot, and you hurt your own side.

"When you cite a known crackpot, you make yourself look like an idiot, and you hurt your own side.

"When you use a well known discredited or provably false argument, you make yourself look like an idiot and you hurt your own side."

I had planned to do more research on this before I hit "Post," but I didn't.  Mea culpa.

jsid-1282015535-816  juris_imprudent at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:25:44 +0000 in reply to jsid-1281990589-95

And for the umpteenth time, Kevin displays the proper humility and etiquette that Markadelphia NEVER grasps.

Oh, M has once again sworn off "The Cult" and all other forms of slander on the right.  Shall we start a pool on how long that will last?  No bets accepted for under 1 millisecond.

jsid-1282023687-981  Markadelphia at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:41:28 +0000

Actually, I'd say that Kucinich certainly is a socialist. He might be further left than Sanders. And how many are supporters of social democracy as opposed to democratic socialism? There is a difference. With the recent economic success of Germany (a social market economy), it's hard to ignore some of the benefits.Or ignore Merkel's spending cuts.

Juris, you make me sad. Never? I would think after my series on Manzi, the admission that a return to the Golden Age of Capitalism is impossible, and the lauding of Ronald Reagan would at least warrant "RARELY" as opposed to "NEVER." By all means, though, start your pool. I'll gladly accept the challenge.

jsid-1282098494-880  juris_imprudent at Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:28:15 +0000 in reply to jsid-1282023687-981

M I have yet to see you post an update to a post correcting even a minor error.  You might concede one, on rare occasion, somewhere down in the comments - but never upfront and center.

Trust me, I would be happy to lose the pool by seeing you civil, curious and open-minded for a loooooooong time.

I just don't expect that.

jsid-1282047234-913  Mastiff at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:13:55 +0000


Germany is not a social market economy, if you mean by that an economy run according to socialist principles. In the literature, it's considered an example of democratic corporatism. See, for example, Hall and Soskice 2001, "Varieties of Capitalism."

jsid-1282066102-13  theirritablearchitect at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:28:22 +0000


I really can't be bothered with defining and redifining who is part of, and what the differences might be, of the DSA versus the Progressive Excuses, I mean, Causus. I know how to spot a tyrant, and the current power-crazed bunch of enablers in the executive and legislative branches are surely doing everything they can to hasten the death of freedom and liberty.

I know who wants to own me and mine, right down to my very LIFE, and they have nothing but my contempt.  I will keep it that way for as long as I am able to draw breath, and if that sounds like a threat to the establishment, that's because it is.

Don't apologize for calling that thieving, rotten mass of VOTERS (that's ALL they are) in the halls of Congress for what they are, Socialists.

jsid-1282067562-192  khbaker at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:52:42 +0000 in reply to jsid-1282066102-13

That list is hardly limited to the Congressional Progressive Caucus, though.

jsid-1282098534-243  juris_imprudent at Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:28:54 +0000 in reply to jsid-1282067562-192

Hear hear!

jsid-1282073209-649  GrumpyOldFart at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:26:53 +0000

For some of those, I can't help but wondering: Do truth in advertising laws really allow the use of the word "honorable" in front of thier names?

jsid-1282085905-15  GrumpyOldFart at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:58:25 +0000 in reply to jsid-1282073209-649

In fairness, I have to admit I'd probably have the same response to several Republicans I can think of.

jsid-1282074025-796  Russell at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:40:25 +0000

"I thought we were the Popular Front."

jsid-1282075690-991  DirtCrashr at Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:08:11 +0000

Denial and deniability is essential (and even an integral part of Islam) ever since Walter Duranty was a sock-puppet for Uncle Joe Stalin who ran the Internationale plan - but this is only Congress.  What about the Senate?

jsid-1282093894-576  DJ at Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:11:34 +0000 in reply to jsid-1282075690-991

"... but this is only Congress.  What about the Senate?"

Congress is composed of the House of Representatives and the Senate.  The list included one member of the Senate.

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