JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2010/03/interesting-coincidence.html (25 comments)

jsid-1269918772-322  LL at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:12:52 +0000

The Public Health Service is an extension of the US Navy and if you check out the billet numbers, they're pitifully small. Commissioned reserve officers attend a 'knife and fork' school to learn how to salute, wear the uniform, etc. There are no enlisted members of the public health service. It's a VAST leap from where it is to calling them anything other than what they are. Might they become something else? Sure. Likely? No. There are other venues to find to generate an army of thugs.

My opinion only.

jsid-1269918946-719  bluesun at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:15:47 +0000

It's been a day of conspiracy theories.  Jay G, Larry Corriea, and now you...

I've got a cut and paste thing that I can just insert where ever it applies:

“I think I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again here. I didn’t used to put much into conspiracy theories: you know, the “THEY”RE ALL OUT TO GET US!” things. I thought that it was more everyone blundering in the wrong direction, little by little.
The longer I follow the news, the more suspicious I become.”

There you go.

jsid-1269919608-44  Hypnagogue at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:26:48 +0000

The idea of turning the Public Health Service into an army is absurd, and that's not what's going on.  The same week they reconciled the health care bill, they nationalized all student loans.  Now every young whippersnapper that wants to get an M.D. must borrow money from the federal government -- strings attached.  Feel free to theorize what plans they have in store that would suddenly require lifting the cap on Public Health Service headcount.

It's not an army, it's slave labor.

jsid-1269921600-186  juris_imprudent at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:00:00 +0000

Ah, Tom Kratman.  I read A Desert Called Peace but I haven't hit the sequel yet.  Subtle?  Sometimes he actually is - most other times he is pure sledgehammer.

I think the outrage you felt at the Dept of Education acquiring short-barrel 870s was a lot more appropriate than twisting up the knickers about the Public Health Service.  Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

jsid-1269922642-468  kahr40 at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:17:25 +0000

Carifex isn't so much a sequel to A Desert Called Peace as part two. Go read the reviews on Kratman's books, specifically "State". Anyone the left hates that much is my kinda guy.

jsid-1269922730-181  Tom Kratman at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:18:50 +0000

Well...some problems aren't nails to be hammered...but, ya know, some are.

You're behind the times, Juris.  There is one sequel now.  Another (The Lotus Eaters) comes out in about 2 weeks (it's been available in ecopy for some time).  Volume IV, The Amazon Legion, is in the pipeline for...soonish.  There will probably be nine in the series, total.

By the way, folks, while I would not say ASOD was a great book - okay, sure, but not great - you might be interested to know that Rottemeyer's speech was in good part lifted almost verbatim from the Democratic Party platform for Campaign 2000.

jsid-1269932385-416  Britt at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:59:45 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269922730-181

The great thing about Baen's stable of authors and the gun/freedom blogs: they overlap. Love your books, eagerly awaiting the Legion's showdown with the Frogs, and really interested to see just how far down the hole Earth is.

jsid-1269935393-882  Tom Kratman at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:49:53 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269932385-416

First shots in that begin with The Lotus Eaters, Britt, due out in about 2 weeks, and there's a bit in Volume IV, The Amazon Legion (forthcoming).  The real bloodletting won't start until V, though, Molon Labe, and continue in VI, The Rods and the Axe.

jsid-1269952091-250  Ken at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:28:11 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269935393-882

I haven't read that series yet, but I liked State particularly for the politcal interplay, and I really liked Caliphate. Considered as an example of One Way Things Could Go, I think Caliphate has a lot to recommend it on those grounds too.

jsid-1269980376-433  DC at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:21:09 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269922730-181

Finished the ebook version of Lotus Eaters last week. GOD I love Baen and their webscriptions!
It was a decent read, looking forward to more of it. Keep 'em coming, Tom!

And THANKS for your service...

jsid-1270013160-367  Tom Kratman at Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:26:00 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269980376-433

Eh? Wasn't like I didn't enjoy most of my time in.  Really, the guys who are owed thanks for their service are not people like me, who liked it, but the ones who didn't enjoy it, but "seen their duty" and "done it," anyway.

jsid-1269923313-378  khbaker at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:28:33 +0000

I never said I put the Wookie-suit on, guys, I just thought the juxtaposition of that link and the speech from Kratman's book was . . . interesting. ;)

jsid-1270188412-650  Justthisguy at Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:06:52 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269923313-378

Yeah , but I do betcha you own a Gadsden flag.

jsid-1270215718-202  Ken at Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:41:58 +0000 in reply to jsid-1270188412-650

I got a Culpeper, but among my numerous character flaws is an impulse to one-upmanship....

jsid-1269929326-119  Ken at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:08:46 +0000

If you think about it, you can usually assign an innocuous explanation and a nefarious explanation (or more than one, considering Hypnogogue's commet) to just about anything. The question, taking into consideration the source, the probability, and the potential consequences, is: Which way do you bet?

jsid-1269953842-402  Hypnagogue at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:57:22 +0000

"First you decide that the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government. But then the doctors aren’t equally divided geographically, so a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him you can’t live in that town, they already have enough doctors. You have to go some place else. And from here it is only a short step to dictating where he will go.  This is a freedom that I wonder whether any of us have the right to take from any human being."

Ronald Reagan, 1961

jsid-1269958546-861  Stormy Dragon at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:15:46 +0000

So when a Republican is President, he can detain anyone he likes without charge, purely by declaring them an 'enemy combatant'.  However, when a Democrat is President, they shouldn't be able to even excute a federal arrest warrant without the permission of the local sheriff.

jsid-1269962933-128  Britt at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:28:56 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269958546-861

Look, fact is there was one American citizen detained as an enemy combatant during the Bush administration. Jose Padilla had his day in court too, and he was convicted in a court of law. It's a difficult thing. Prior restraint does, for me, become justifiable when you have so many lives at stake.That being said, no one likes it. Especially since the legal precdent was 3rd term FDR, who had at that point appointed 8 of the 9 Justices. On the detaining American citizens without habeas corpus front, Lincoln and FDR detained thousands, and Bush detained one. It's not a good thing, but all things considered, it's acceptable. Especially since Padilla was in fact an AQ scumbag and not some case of mistaken identity.

The good thing is that there just aren't a whole lot of American citizens growing up with a jihad state of mind. The social mobility and oppurtunity here means there isn't a pool of disaffected and idle angry young men to recruit from. Which is why Europe is doomed: the enemy is already inside the gates, and they can't deal with them because the people that hate and despise them are protected by the system they want to overthrow.

jsid-1270258903-160  Roberta X at Sat, 03 Apr 2010 01:41:43 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269958546-861

Wha--?  Stormy, the rule is the rule; party affiliation does not matter.  You been sleepin'?

jsid-1269960689-210  mattm at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:51:29 +0000

Stormy, maybe your confusion is the differernce between citizens and non-citizens.

jsid-1269984090-449  Matt B at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:21:30 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269960689-210

And so is yours. The Constitution also notices the difference between citizens and people. Maybe you should read it. Good stuff there. 

jsid-1270093829-636  Britt at Thu, 01 Apr 2010 03:50:29 +0000 in reply to jsid-1269984090-449

American law applies to American citizens.

jsid-1269977205-353  Sylvilagus Aquaticus at Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:26:45 +0000

Crap. Now I have to start reading his novels, and just last month I found Iain M. Banks.


jsid-1270187170-673  Justthisguy at Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:46:10 +0000

Kratman does the Death Stare very well, judging from the pic on his site. The only time I've seen it IRL was on the visage of a US Marine Staff Sergeant ( I think, didn't have time to count rockers)  who didn't look old enough to buy alcohol lawfullly.  It was during the Toys for Tots thing, and he was checking out the donation bin, or something.

jsid-1270193178-854  Tom Kratman at Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:26:18 +0000 in reply to jsid-1270187170-673

You should have seen the reactions I used to get in some parts of Germany. ;)

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