JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2010/02/well-audi-is-german-company.html (72 comments)

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jsid-1265599655-503  Ken at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:27:35 +0000

I guess Audi has written off the free men and women segment.

jsid-1265599667-838  juris_imprudent at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:27:47 +0000

Yes, I was feeling the blood start to boil until the last 5 seconds, when the green police tagged the 'real' police.  Absent that I might just have been e-mailing Audi right now.

jsid-1265600238-283  hazmat at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:37:18 +0000

All I could think of when they were raiding folks' homes for such idiotic things as compost materials and incandescent bulbs, was at what point would the shooting start?  I believe the most colorful remark I made was something to the effect of "I don't f'in THINK so!"

To paraphrase the Colonel from First Blood, if you raid his home for not being green enough remember one thing.  Bring a good supply of body bags.

jsid-1265600396-815  LCB at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:39:56 +0000

I'm sure most thought this was funny.  But I sat there knowing that this is exactly what our "betters" in government want...

jsid-1265657192-643  Satanam in computatrum at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:26:32 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265600396-815

EXACTLY what I was thinking...

jsid-1265601004-708  GrumpyOldFart at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:50:04 +0000

Just think of Green Police as compost that comes to you...

jsid-1265607473-913  Sendarius at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:37:53 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265601004-708

... and a source of inexpensive (replacement) .40 S&W ammunition.

jsid-1265601322-915  Guest (anonymous) at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:55:22 +0000

Lol @ GrumpyOldFart.

jsid-1265601913-841  Linoge at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:05:13 +0000

Something tells me they would find my gratuitous spreading of lead by the explosion of highly-polluting chemicals to be significantly more troubling than whatever asinine "infraction" it was that they were trying to "arrest" me over. 

jsid-1265602090-819  Wolfman at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:08:10 +0000

I started to feel my blood pressure rise throughout the entire bit.  Fortunately, though, my six year old niece was watching the game with us, so my most abrasive comment was, "Yeah, come to THIS house and try it!"  Un-fricken-happy.  And still mad...

jsid-1265602833-445  George at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:20:33 +0000

...and of course, the cashier initiating the question, "Paper or plastic?" acting as a state agent, would mean the idea came from the State, i.e. ENTRAPMENT.  Not that standards of LAW mean anything...
I had a friend, years ago, when things became 'tighter', who stated, "I wonder what I'm gonna do, when they ask, MAY I SEE YOUR PAPERS?"

jsid-1265602969-49  EMP at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:22:49 +0000

Funny.  I just happened to be texting someone during part of the game and when that commercial came up all I could say was "I could see myself getting into a shootout with the Green Police over something petty."

jsid-1265607324-909  bluesun at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:35:24 +0000

The FUTURE... is NOW!

jsid-1265608545-584  David, Chandler, AZ at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:55:45 +0000

Yea, I about hit the fucking ceiling when this came on.

jsid-1265608753-52  cargosquid at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:59:23 +0000

Remember when using plastic was the green idea so that we could save all the trees......

jsid-1265609105-50  Black Ice at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:05:05 +0000

Fiction today...

...fact tomorrow.  Remember when bicycle helmets and arresting kids for drawing pictures of guns, were considered tinfoil-hat hyperbole?  =-O

jsid-1265613843-356  Joe Huffman at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:24:03 +0000

I think I would discover this was what "the God Switch" was built for.

Kevin knows what I am talking about...

jsid-1265614989-893  Phil B at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:43:09 +0000

You think that this is a spoof?? WRONG!!!

It can be turned into a money making scheme and criminalise (and I DO mean criminalise) people for "Eco Crimes". Just think - if I had put potato peelings in the wrong bin, I would be fined AND with a criminal conviction so that I could not enter America :


Or if your bin is full, then OF COURSE you cannot use common sense :


And of course, you have to pay to save the planet ...


I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad I am in New Zealand.

jsid-1265731286-675  theirritablearchitect at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:01:26 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265614989-893

I hope everyone is paying attention to what you are saying, here, Phil. It's these lies that will come to America, and soon.

We used to be free in this country, but this...thoughtlessness is being turned into a jack-booted tyranny, and it's happening quickly.

Keep up the shouting, sir. We need it.

jsid-1265632224-408  Bram at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:30:24 +0000

I was fantasizing about running over the Green Police electric carts with my SUV at the roadblock.  I may have to back over it and spin all 4 tires to make sure the battery ruptures and sprays mercury everywhere.

jsid-1265635697-324  Sarah at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:28:17 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265632224-408

I just bought a Land Rover, and it's a tank. Think of how many electric carts I could flatten with it.

jsid-1265637772-590  khbaker at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:02:52 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265635697-324

Not to mention pursuit Segways! :-D

jsid-1265639267-898  Bram at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:27:47 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265637772-590

I was trying to remember what those stupid electric unicycles are called!

jsid-1265817377-343  MasterMucker at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:56:17 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265635697-324

Did you pay cash?

jsid-1265632723-738  NMM1AFan at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:38:43 +0000

Heh, I thought the same thing last night.  "I wonder which of the blogs will call out that ad first?"

The green police ought to know that airborne lead poisoning will be an occupational hazard...

jsid-1265639350-6  Bram at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:29:10 +0000

I also was rooting for the real cop at the end.  I wanted him to throw boiling hot coffee in the Green Cop's face.

jsid-1265643399-508  geekwitha45 at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:36:39 +0000

W. T. F.

Somewhere, perhaps even sitting right next to you, is someone who *isn't* having a blood boiling reaction. Somewhere, someone is applauding, thinking this is just a marvelous idea, and daydreaming of the day when those selfish eco brutes will get theirs.

Somewhere else, in an ad agency that lives in a vacuum insulated echo chamber, a whole bunch of people very badly misread the American character.

jsid-1265732657-475  theirritablearchitect at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:24:17 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265643399-508

"Somewhere, perhaps even sitting right next to you, is someone who *isn't* having a blood boiling reaction..."

And the end result is this; not only will we be forced to kill the Leviathanic assholes who they hire to come kill us, we will be forced to kill those whose, "blood isn't boiling," as you put it.

Think about that one.

jsid-1265768164-938  IdahoHunter at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:16:05 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265732657-475

Yes, a "bloodletting" will be very necessary

jsid-1265643453-814  Bob K at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:37:34 +0000

My blood boiled when I saw this, and I thought I was maybe just over reacting... Now I see others feel as I did!  The way things are going in this country right now, I'd not be surprised to see something resembling this everyday sometime soon.  Wake up people! 

jsid-1265644097-842  John H. at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:48:17 +0000

It was so over-the-top, I have to expect satire. Though I'm not sure whom they are satirizing - the loony left, or their perception of a paranoid right.

jsid-1265644481-538  khbaker at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:54:41 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265644097-842

The problem, John, as Phil B. points out above, is that it's too close to what could happen to be effective satire.  It is, by appearances, not outside the bounds of possibility, which satire requires to be effective.

jsid-1265644992-191  philmon at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:03:12 +0000

Yeah, I cringed at the thought that yes, this is the logical conclusion to where we're headed.  And in that context, I didn't think it was funny at all.

jsid-1265645430-214  perlhaqr at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:10:30 +0000

I kinda feel bad about owning a VW TDI now.  :(

jsid-1265646859-323  khbaker at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:34:19 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265645430-214

All the better to camoflage your "arsenal"!

jsid-1265657341-472  perlhaqr at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:29:01 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265646859-323

Now I have "the Green Police... are buried under my shed..." running through my head.

jsid-1265647806-463  Ed "What the" Heckman at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:50:06 +0000

The sad thing about satire like this is that far too often reality tries to imitate it. (Though in this case, I think the Green Police would largely be incapacitated by lead poisoning before it reached such an advanced state.) That's why I found that ad very, very creepy.

For example, a few years ago, I saw a similar equivalence with one of the bits from Monty Python's The Quest for the Holy Grail. (It's about half way down my version of an überpost.)

jsid-1265647868-730  Matt B at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:51:08 +0000

My first reaction was, wow, I'd be shooting over that. However, I did find it funny. But I leaned over to my like minded friend and said "Yeah, we're not that far from that" and he nodded knowingly.

Its one thing to find it funny as an ad, while knowing full well it portends the future. Its another thing to find it funny and wish it would happen. 

jsid-1265649008-960  DJMoore at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:10:09 +0000

This ad is brilliant satire.

Audi knows that they could not survive a year operating under the regulatory and legal regime portrayed in this ad, which is way beyond even formerly-great britain. If you've spent any time at all listening to greens, the issue is not "this car or that", but "no cars at all".

Those of us who hang out on blogs like SM are touchy because we know this is where we're headed.

This ad is not aimed at us.

It is aimed at the huge chunk of middle Americans who are just kind of going along to get along, nodding at all the fresh, tasty watermelon being served, trying to do the right thing, thinking, yeah, having forests and clean air sounds like a good thing, but without really thinking about the end game.

This is a wake-up call, showing ordinary people being arrested for ordinary things. People who think things like this only happen to scummy drug dealers and pornographers. They never imagine that they're next on the list -- for using the wrong kind of light bulb.

Brave ad, Audi. Bravo!

jsid-1265654180-508  khbaker at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:36:20 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265649008-960

I have no doubt it was intended as satire.  I also agree that it wasn't aimed at the audience of TSM.  However, I have to wonder how it played with "middle America."  Your vote counts as (1) in favor.

jsid-1265649702-687  Robin Munn at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:21:42 +0000

The whole time I was watching this ad, I was wondering "Is this parody, or are they serious?" I was waiting for the punchline... waiting for it... waiting... and then the Audi logo came up, with the slogan "Green never felt so good." No irony, no punchline -- they were serious.


jsid-1265651609-865  Randy at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:53:29 +0000

Most real cops I know would be asking the eco freak wannabe how funny he think he'd be walking with that Segway inserted were the sun don't shine.

jsid-1265652744-755  Britt at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:12:24 +0000

I was much, much, much more pissed off by the ad for the Census. You know, because the government that can steal money to fund things needs to advertise the services they pay for with your stolen money.

Although to be fair, at least the Census is something Constitutional. Which I can't say abut 90% of the things the government does.

jsid-1265655187-92  Ben at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:53:07 +0000

I see what Audi was going for but unfortunatly I find it to close to the truth or at least what some people would like to be the truth to be funny

jsid-1265662079-444  James at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:47:59 +0000

The nickname of the late '30's-1945 Ordnungspolizei  was "Green Police".

Given that the ad does not seem to show disapproval of the Green Police, but rather a way to please them, this is creepy for a company whose address is "2200 Ferdinand Porche Dr"....Hitler's selected carmaker.

jsid-1265667224-389  Jeff at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:13:44 +0000

I wish I was planning on buying an Audi, so I could change my mind.

jsid-1265671446-147  Mike Doyle at Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:24:06 +0000

I'll see your jaw-drop and raise you a "Holy Shit!"

Ya know, if Audi was trying to sell me a car, they failed. This makes me want to buy an M1114 Humvee with pintle-mounted Ma Deuce - and a long belt... :-P

jsid-1265676570-770  hazmat at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:49:30 +0000

I'll give you three guesses as to which state you'll see this sort of crap start, and a cookie for which city it comes from.

(Hint:  Think left.......far left)

jsid-1265680660-46  Greg Hunt at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:57:47 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265676570-770


It's now illegal to throw your food waste into the trash in San Francisco.

Already started.

All of the local "food court" daytime lunch areas have people standing in front of the trash/recycling areas. Their job is to take your garbage from you and hand sort it into the proper bins. Otherwise, people might be getting tickets for putting their plastic spork or their leftover burrito into the trash, which would be bad for business.

jsid-1265685765-950  Guest (anonymous) at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:22:46 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265676570-770

Yup. And not just in San FranciscoSeattle goes even further.

jsid-1265677456-399  McThag at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:04:16 +0000

When you buy your shotgun shells, make sure they have PLASTIC hulls!

jsid-1265683489-673  deadcenter at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:44:49 +0000

if you didn't realize this was satire when the green cop targets the cop cop, your detector is broken.  up to that point though, the two shooters i was watching the game with were all looking at each other with wtf and don't start the revolution without me expressions. 

jsid-1265683493-898  Kevin at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:44:53 +0000

This commercial makes me think of zombies coming to get me... Green police might get dispatched in the same way. Please note, I don't want to hurt anyone, I'm just afraid of zombies.

jsid-1265685860-1  Joe Huffman at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:24:20 +0000

About half way through Barb asked, "Why is it that just white guys are getting in trouble?"

Good question.

jsid-1265727725-955  Sarah at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:02:06 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265685860-1

Don't you know it's axiomatic that white men are evil? :-P

jsid-1265730206-490  khbaker at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:43:28 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265727725-955

Actually, white men are the last demographic that can be ridiculed and demonized without a backlash of "RACIST!" or "SEXIST!" or whatever.  After all, everybody knows that white males of EUropean descent are: stupid, evil, lazy, exploitive, greedy, homophobic, racist, fundamentalist, . . . .  Did I miss anything?

jsid-1265733663-376  theirritablearchitect at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:41:03 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265730206-490


jsid-1265757476-155  sux2bme at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:17:56 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265730206-490

HEY!!!!  That's Euro-Nordic Testostero American to you buddy!!

jsid-1265741996-972  Sarah at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:59:57 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265685860-1

Judging from commercials, you could add: bumbling, incompetent, clueless.

jsid-1265742016-215  Firehand at Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:00:16 +0000

I just got around to watching this, and two things come to mind:
1. I'm with Kevin, there'd be blood shed
2. Audi just lost any chance of ever seeing a dollar of my money.
Add to that what somebody had the other day about how much money Audi gives to various greenie and progressive causes...

jsid-1265766936-257  Sendarius at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:55:36 +0000

Does anybody know which advertising company came up with this?

I'd like to know because...  well, I'd just like to know, OK?

jsid-1265767969-514  khbaker at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:12:49 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265766936-257

Yes, Venable Bells & Partners from (where else) San Francisco.

jsid-1265825108-710  Greg Hunt at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:05:08 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265767969-514

From the link above:

If Venables Bell really wanted to twist the knife, though, wouldn't they point out that an Audi designed for ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel would probably emit less pollution than the city-owned hybrid SUV Newsom is currently being driven around in?

So, Lefties consider the commercial a critique, because it implies that we aren't going far enough, fast enough, to do any real good, while non-Lefties view it as the authoritarian thuggery that it is. Am I getting that right? If so, it reminds me of Obama's big problem. His core-support, the Lunatic-Left, are pissed at him for "not being the President we all hoped he could be" and taking us down the road fast enough. The rest of us lie in a range from I-told-you-so to "I can't fucking believe it; he did what?!?", and are gradually growing more pissed at him every week that passes. So, like everything else involving socialist idealism; no matter how it's done, nobody is happy.

jsid-1265805688-4  Jay G. at Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:41:28 +0000

My Ram's got 345 horsepower and a curb weight of 5,700 pounds.

Think Segway pancakes...

jsid-1265920493-411  Regular dude at Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:34:53 +0000

Get a grip people, it was a silly commercial with a ridiculous over the top satire on those who look to 'green' everything.  Your paranoia is a bit much. 

jsid-1265924334-361  khbaker at Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:38:54 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265920493-411

Oh really?  It's only paranoia when they aren't out to get you.  Scroll up to Phil B's links,  too.

jsid-1265943154-31  Greg Hunt at Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:52:34 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265920493-411

What part of "It's now illegal to throw your food waste into the trash in San Francisco" is it that sounds like paranoia? Because, last time I checked, if it's actually happening, it's not paranoia.

jsid-1265982216-953  Russell at Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:43:36 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265920493-411

Ah, I see some are being fitted quite well to the eco straitjackets. 

jsid-1265993387-67  khbaker at Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:49:47 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265982216-953

Pay a little extra and you can get yours tailored!  A bit more, and they'll line it with hair.

jsid-1265965882-420  Larry at Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:11:22 +0000

In Durham it is now illegal to throw your plastic bottles into the regular trash.  They have to be recycled.  By law.
San Fran-freakshow isn't the only bastion of bat-shit crazy in America, I'm sad to say.

jsid-1266125950-24  bob r at Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:39:11 +0000 in reply to jsid-1265965882-420

I recycle plastic bottles the same way I recycle paper and cardboard: in a _very_ hot 55 gallon drum.  It has a blower to inject air at the bottom and the fire in that baby gets hot enough that a goodly portion of the barrel glows red. I figure some time in the future the CO2 will end up back in the ground. ;)

I visit the transfer station about 4 times a year to get rid of bottles, cans and that small amount of garbage I can't burn.

jsid-1266172431-894  Ed "What the" Heckman at Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:33:51 +0000

Well, well, well. It appears that Cambridge, Massachusetts is getting closer to this "ideal" than any other place in the country. (Here is a direct link to the report from the Cambridge Climate Commission for those ideologically incapable of accepting facts stated by conservative sources.)

Still think it's paranoia, Regular Dude?

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