JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2009/01/long-range-pistol.html (20 comments)

jsid-1232230821-601021  fits at Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:20:21 +0000

Mega-monstrously-marvelous.Great post and terrif firearm.

jsid-1232245803-601025  Terry at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:30:03 +0000

Ditto on Optics Planet. I looked all over for the Zeiss scope I wanted for my BHO enticed Armalite AR-10 purchase. Optics Planet had it in stock. No one else I inquired with did AND, I paid $100 less for it than SWFA advertised.

jsid-1232251306-601027  juris_imprudent at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:01:46 +0000

You know, if some idiot screenwriter hadn't already demonized the T/C - this would surely have been fodder for some EEEEeeeeevil villain.

jsid-1232266948-601033  Mastiff at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:22:28 +0000

Okay, help a newbie out—is there any reason for this thing to exist, besides that it doesn't count as a sawed-off rifle? Or is that it?

jsid-1264801215-124  khbaker at Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:40:15 +0000 in reply to jsid-1232266948-601033

This is why.

jsid-1232274007-601035  julie at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:20:07 +0000

N I C E ... did you get to the range?

jsid-1232287552-601036  Kevin Baker at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:05:52 +0000

Okay, help a newbie out—is there any reason for this thing to exist, besides that it doesn't count as a sawed-off rifle? Or is that it?

"1½" Groups at ¼ Mile"

Is there any better reason? ;)

It's 7:00AM here, and I'm prepping to go to the range right now.

jsid-1232293180-601038  geekWithA.45 at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:39:40 +0000

Is a pistol scope really going to survive the earth shattering kaboom over the long haul?

jsid-1232295297-601040  DJ at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:14:57 +0000

Geek, I have a 686 Smith with a 6" barrel, equipped with a 2X Leupold EER scope. I forget how long I've had it, but it's about 25 years. The scope looks and works as if it's brand new. Still works great after thousands of hot .357 loads.

So, will this one last? I don't know, but I would dearly LOVE to find out, one round at a time.

Cow elk hunting is preposterously easy, but it's also half our meat supply for the year. Such a rig would put a nice challenge back into it.

jsid-1232305105-601043  mthead at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:58:25 +0000

Long range handgunning is one of the most satisfying sports in the gun world. And that looks like a shooter. Looking forward to reports! Enjoy.

jsid-1232311803-601044  Scott at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:50:03 +0000

Nice rig. When did you get your 5R? I picked one up late last year. It's very accurate out of the box. I'll find out at the PRC shoot (http://www.tacticsprc.com/) in Phoenix in February.


jsid-1232312982-601045  geekWithA.45 at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:09:42 +0000


I'd expect a scope to last shooting handgun rounds, even the higher order ones like 44 mag. (Unsure of the mega handgun rounds 454 Casull, .500 S&W etc). .308 and derivatives really is a whole 'nother order of consequence. 357 mag generates 574 ft-lbs, 44 mag generates 1036 ft-lbs, whereas the .260 rem generates 2392 ft-lbs of scope abusing force.

jsid-1232313358-601046  David at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:15:58 +0000

Don Bower went to the Burris scopes for his long-range work for two reasons. 1: they were the only high-power long-eye-relief scopes available at the time. 2: they held up to the recoil.

The last couple years at Boomershoot, I've shot at least one of my .308 pistols without changing the zero, using the ballistic-plex reticle to move my impact without clicking. Over three days and many rounds of .308, I saw no change in the zero on the Burris 3-12x pistol scopes. They're tough enough.

jsid-1232317825-601049  GreyBeard at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:30:25 +0000

Ditto on Optics Planet, I've used them a couple of times, with full satisfaction.
Nice gun!

jsid-1232322408-601050  DJ at Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:46:48 +0000

You're right, Geek, but the critical factor overall is the peak acceleration the scope experiences, both translational and rotational, and so the mass of the piece, the moment by which it pitches upward, and many other factors have to be considered. I find my .357 Mag to have much sharper recoil than my brother's .44 Mag Anaconda, so the peak acceleration with mine might be higher.

Mine weighs 56.5 ounces. Perhaps our esteemed host could weigh his so we can compare.

Damn, but I'm salivating.

jsid-1232335062-601051  mthead at Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:17:42 +0000

Kevin, ever read any of Bob Milek's stuff on long range handgunning? He was a pioneer in the sport. Him & Mr. Herrett. At least in the single shot pistol type.

jsid-1232337114-601052  joe at Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:51:54 +0000

With that comp, I am so glad I'm not on the bench next to you when you light that thing off!

jsid-1232714949-601154  Ragin' Dave at Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:49:09 +0000

My wife just saw this, looked at the picture of the scope with the level, and said "THAT'S NOT A PISTOL, THAT'S A POWER TOOL!"

Considering that she constantly steals all my power tools, I don't know if you should be insulted or complimented.

jsid-1232768122-601191  Kevin Baker at Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:35:22 +0000

Oh, hell. I may have to name this one, too: "The Power Tool." Heh.

jsid-1263711182-344  Robert at Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:53:02 +0000

Weird looking setup, but I bet she'll shoot the heck out of 50 cent pieces at 100 yards!!?!!

I love the .260.  I have a .308 now and the .260 is NEXT on my list.

Good luck with the gun!


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