The Smallest Minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. - Ayn Rand
I'm gonna react to this, but there are some spoilers below...
Omega Man is still my favorite interpretation of this story (although Night of the Comet comes a close second for me... with a great but oddly placed quip about the advantages of UZIs vs. Ingram machine pistols)
The ending of the Omega Man was perhaps the most interesting of all the screen versions. After Neville is killed by the infected, the little girl survivor picks up his hat and repectfully places it on the rim of the fountain where his body reposes. I always felt this was the filmmakers telling us they hoped the often cultlike madness of the sixties and early seventies would be replaced by a newer, saner generation that respected law and order, tradition and their elders.
"They are working to destroy our nest (the markets) and after that is destroyed, they will come for us"
And you wonder why the label "paranoid gun nuts" exist. I really hope you, and others here, don't think this is going to happen.
Should your guy gain power, at some point in the Afterlife when this is all over, and we are past caring and at a place where the events of this life are distant trivia, I will look you up in that afterlife.
I will come in peace, bearing cigars and whiskey, seeking to learn the answer to a small number of simple questions.
The one I'm thinking of right now is
"Which of us was more surprised at the outcome of granting significant power to Obama?"
We who have studied and understood history are condemned to watch those who haven't and don't repeat it.
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
Mark hasn't yet grasped the concept of unintended consequences. Plenty of folks have underestimated the quantity and quality of pushback of which the American people are capable. Look at how puzzled they were in 1994 after the left tried to nationalize health care the last time and they rammed the AWB through that summer. Chuckie Schumer got so excited that he had "Brady II" ready to go before the election and got the attention of enough folks who take the 2nd seriously to make a difference. I suspect that The One's slips lately about spreading and redistributing, and Reid/ Pelosi plans to railroad the "card check" bill and 401(k) nationalization may be having the same effect. Even though the MSM has done it's level best to bury these glimpses of the truth, word seems to be trickling through.
"We who have studied and understood history are condemned to watch those who haven't and don't repeat it."
But you haven't really studied history, have you geek? You have sought out only the information that suits your belief system (confirmation bias). I have spent my entire life (41 years) studying history and have no problem admitting that, on the whole, Democrats have been more criminal and racist then Republicans. Democrats have stolen more elections than Republicans, including one stolen by my hero JFK. Republicans are more racist now and have stolen more elections in recent years.
The history of this country is rife with atrocities committed by many Democrats, the worst being the ones committed by LBJ. And even I have to admit that for all the evil Richard Nixon was, he was bloody brilliant in the area of foreign policy and applied exactly the right tactics with China and Russia.
But you, and some folks here, seem to have a real difficult time admitting there is anything good about Democrats or liberals. Even worse, you all seem to feel that there is nothing wrong with conservative ideology at all and it has no flaws. Some here even think that George W. Bush was a good president! Good grief...
So what exactly what is Obama condemned to repeat? The era of FDR? Gee, that really turned out to be the worst thing that ever happened to this country. We rebuilt our nation after a series of failed policies and beat the strongest army the world has ever known. And it was the closest we have ever come to socialism. We aren't even going to come close to that with Senator Obama.
Well for starters Mark FDR's prescriptions PROLONGED THE DEPRESSION. Protectionist trade practices do not rebuild markets.
And how EXACTLY did Republicans steal elections in recent years? Do tell. If you're thinking Florida 2000, you had better re-read the bipartisan report which concluded nothing of the sort occurred, and that in fact GWB won every recount fair and square.
If you and your buddies were not so intellectualy dishonest, it might be easier for those of us who oppose you politically to conclude that there are redeeming factors on your side. As for the evidence, I see little in your national leadership and none in you.
The most recent evidence suggests that the worst policy failures were FDR's.
Dance and squirm all you like, Markadelphia (though I think the name Squealer, or perhaps Mr. Whymper, suits you better) : you and people like you own the mountain of skulls that serves as the shrine of the 20th Century, not us. Play all the party label games you like, but you cannot hide from that essential truth.
Back to your vomit, dog.
Mark, if you are as astute a student of history as you claim, you would know full well the trepidation we have with regard to socialism. Everywhere it is implemented it has failed in its claims and there's no reason to expect that this time will be different. Examples of its failures abound in today's world, yet I can see no successes. This is what you and your ilk want to bring to these shores, and you're eagerly sharpening your carving knives, preparing to kill the last golden goose on the planet.
"Mark, if you are as astute a student of history as you claim, ..."
History is evidence, and he is not into evidence. Indeed, he is not into reality. He is into belief, y'see.
The 2000 election was not stolen - more party line BS. The SCOTUS had to step in to stop the endless recounts. Recounts that Gore demanded, but only in specific counties that were close (not a general recount by any means). When the recounts did not yield the results he liked, he demanded another... and another. This could have gone on ad infinitum. In my opinion, the SCOTUS stopped GORE from stealing the election.
But you haven't really studied history, have you geek?
You have absolutely no standing to challenge anyone's study of anything, and especially history.
You have sought out only the information that suits your belief system (confirmation bias).
Project much? Mark, that's you. Oh, you may read - just enough to automatically contradict. And even then you're dishonest.
Ah, Is this the right site for an argument?
No! You're falling victim to a fallacy! Your neo-conservative libertarian classical liberal ideology nee paganism is what I've theorized and predicted!
Wait, wait, wait! An argument isn't just contradiction and nonsensical words and things that don't even apply!
Mark: It can be. Especially if you've got the right education.
No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
Mark: No it isn't. Capitalism is bad! But the same as Socialism! Neither is better or worse!
Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
Mark: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary and dishonest position.
Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.' and BOOOOOSH! BOOOOSH! BOOOSH!
Mark: Yes it is! BOOOOOSH! BOOOOSH! BOOOSH!
No it isn't!
Mark: Yes it is! BOOOOOSH! BOOOOSH! BOOOSH!
Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
Mark: No it isn't. BOOOOOSH! BOOOOSH! BOOOSH!
Not at all. BOOOOOSH! BOOOOSH! BOOOSH! .... NEOCONS!
Normally I would say "That's gonna leave a mark!"
But not in (*ahem*) Mark's case.
Water off a duck's back.
Unlike you, she's smart enough to realize that she's lost any credibility she might have in this discussion.
Although her parting shot was a doozy. My irony cup runneth the f*** over, indeed.
Gotta say this in Mark's defense, though: his inexplicable persistence has inspired a lot of great posts and discussions here.
Look at all the words that so many of us have written in his general direction.
None of it - NONE has sunk in. In fact, he's really regressing now.
DJ and others have pegged him and his personality very correctly. I now write with the possibility, however faint, that he'll read with an open mind, or possibly later, will come back and re-read later. But I really write more not TO Mark but AT him. So when people who tend to agree with Mark politically find these screeds, they'll have to compare their conclusions with Mark's - and find how wanting his are.
And maybe they'll question their own then. It's happened before, and I certainly have rethought a few things. So I write at Mark. I still have hope for him, he's human, he's literate, he's got the capacity to change. You might say, I still have Hope for his Change.
But, maybe you're right. I suppose you could say he's inspired them. What he'll likely claim, falsely (IMO), is that he participated in them.
Unix -- You're doing a service. If Mark doesn't get it, then someone will. And if anything I find talking at someone helps me solidify my own thoughts on a subject.
As Kevin once said, many long moons ago, I refuse to let him win by default. Likely he won't understand that, but others will.
Obama's idea of a free market
"So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted."