JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/09/really-democrats-authored-this.html (11 comments)

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jsid-1221712368-596668  geekWithA.45 at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:32:48 +0000

>>...demonstrate the continuing political clout of the NRA.

People should recognize that statement for the dodge that it is, because it's damned near omnipresent, and because people have been trained to interpret any and every spontaneous progun act of the people as an act of the NRA.

The reason we have to call them on it is because if we allow them to attribute progun acts to one, single monolithic entity, that neatly creates a huge vulnerability, in that its a heck of a lot easier to demonize a single entity who "foists a radical agenda on the American public who broadly accepts common sense gun legislation". It creates a trivial narrative and explanation for gunrights that allows our enemies to bypass the reality, which is, of course, that gunrights are widely popular, across a vast array of demographics and ideologies, a genuine grassroots.

jsid-1221728392-596673  Steve Johnson at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:59:52 +0000

Don't you find it annoying how the media always attribute any pro-gun votes to the "political clout of the NRA". It is never the will of the people. It is never that politicians actually believe that citizens should own guns.

jsid-1221735944-596674  privateer at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:44 +0000

I actually heard about this, and was able to send an emailt to my reps because of the GOA.

jsid-1221747938-596681  emdfl at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:25:38 +0000

I wish I could believethat this was anything more then a bunch of demos trying to do a cya for the demo party.

jsid-1221752651-596690  Matt at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:44:11 +0000

No emdfl, it's not a cover for the Democratic party; it's a cover for themselves.

Congress was won back by the Dems mainly due to moderate Democrats taking seats away from Republicans. Most of these seats were won in areas that traditionally support gun rights where gun control is not welcome. A Kentucky Democrat is not the same thing as a California Democrat. They have to obey the will of their constituents. Support gun control and they lose their seats. In virutally every case, these Dems had endorsements by the NRA.

Rumor has it is the NRA threatened to pull their endorsements if they decided not to back gun rights in the way they promised their voters back home. If they don't support what they said they were, why should the NRA endorse them? And back in many of these places, an NRA endorsement is a real big deal in deciding who will support your rights.

They are being good politicians. I've never understood why it should be a hard job. As long as you don't lie (much) to the people supporting you, you should have no problems staying in office. These politicians want to stay in office. If they follow the lead of the Communist leadership in power, they will find themselves absent a place to sit.

The Dem Party gets to reap the benefits but it doesn't take much for them to squander that benefit either. All Biden has to do is open his mouth and express the pride at having been one of the 94 AWB authors and how he supports the current Democratic Party platform to reinstate it and that CYA goodwill is gone.

This is about local districts. It had nothing to do with the party. I am quite sure allowing this vote to proceed had to be like ground glass in Pelosi's mouth and I hope she didn't enjoy it.

jsid-1221756988-596703  DirtCrashr at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:56:28 +0000

"If they follow the lead of the Communist leadership in power, they will find themselves absent a place to sit." - Unless they're from California where the Democrat Politburo is safely gerrymandered from any criticism or public input in their 1000-year Reichdistrickts.

jsid-1221758946-596705  Paul W at Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:29:06 +0000

"Number 2, if the government of the District of Columbia can take your guns away from you in our nation's capital, Prescott, Arkansas, and many other small towns across the country could be next."

I'd like to see the government TRY to do that in most small towns in the Blue States. Well, not really - but they'd have a VERY hard time of it, and need to bring along lots of body bags for their bag men.

jsid-1221810040-596746  Jay Hafemeister at Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:40:40 +0000

This is a feint. The democrat leaders are allowing this to get through the House to protect their southern democrats. This bill won't get a vote in the senate so it is meaningless.

I'm happy to see my congressman vote for my rights but, I'd rather see something actually get accomplished.

jsid-1221871172-596805  Draven at Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:39:32 +0000

I'd almost rather watch it get repeatedly beaten into DC's head by the courts.

jsid-1221913596-596815  Brett Bellmore at Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:26:36 +0000

I think Jay identified the chief reason for it, but there's also an element of, "If we can moderate D.C.'s gun laws by legislation, we can keep this out of the Court until we've put a few more Justices in there who don't like guns."

We're going to be seeing some Democratic efforts to take the edge off the worst of local gun control, over the next few years, from that motive. Nothing that would positively effect the situation of most people, though.

jsid-1221928754-596823  Draven at Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:39:14 +0000

Actually, there's a 9th district case to test incorporation already up for review at the district court level..

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