JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2008/05/quote-of-day_14.html (17 comments)

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jsid-1210789235-592027  Guav at Wed, 14 May 2008 18:20:35 +0000

"give the Democrats their head, and pick up the pieces after the inevitable crash."

Funny, I said the same thing about Republicans in 2004.

jsid-1210791198-592031  Kevin Baker at Wed, 14 May 2008 18:53:18 +0000

And you were RIGHT!

jsid-1210796978-592037  Guav at Wed, 14 May 2008 20:29:38 +0000

How sad is it that it seems the best we can hope for is that the other guys screws up the country so bad that our guy will get his chance to screw it up?

jsid-1210797443-592038  Kevin Baker at Wed, 14 May 2008 20:37:23 +0000

Pretty fucking sad.

jsid-1210797763-592039  Oldsmoblogger at Wed, 14 May 2008 20:42:43 +0000

"The post-Gingrich Republicans who invented 'big government conservatism' have much to answer for."

They haven't learned yet, either. There's a post at Ace of Spades about a memo from Tom Davis arguing that opposition to SCHIP and the housing bill are what cost the GOP those three special elections. They'll probably override the farm bill veto, too.

May these feckless poltroons be called to account, and that right soon.

jsid-1210810404-592051  Brett Bellmore at Thu, 15 May 2008 00:13:24 +0000

I donno, I kind of figure that the Democrats are likely to have an essentially veto and filibuster proof majority after this election. Given that, all a McCain Presidency will achieve is making sure that Democrats can saddle Republicans with much of the blame for what they do.

He's going to enthusiastically aid them in advancing censorship of political speech and throwing open the borders, and buy their cooperation on some marginal issues by helping spike Republican efforts to function as an effective minority party.

The way I see it, our best option is to write off the Presidency as a lost cause this time around, and concentrate on a last ditch effort to retain enough seats to still effectively obstruct Democratic efforts on some key issues.

jsid-1210862098-592068  ParatrooperJJ at Thu, 15 May 2008 14:34:58 +0000

Vote for McCain for two reasons:

avoid national heathcare
Supreme Court appointments

jsid-1210872261-592076  John Stephens at Thu, 15 May 2008 17:24:21 +0000

I dunno. Who IS John Galt?

jsid-1210873488-592080  staghounds at Thu, 15 May 2008 17:44:48 +0000

People say "it can't go on forever".

Britain has been heading down the Red path for a century now. They have endured two Pyrrhic victories in world war, multiple defeats, a 99.5% currency value loss. All the doctors are government employees. Statistically, the population is entirely disarmed.

Not a single socialist program has ever been ended, or even rolled back a little, in all that time.

Come to think of it, not just in Britain- I can't think of a freely chosen socialist program that was ever reversed or done away with anywhere.

Yes, it CAN go on forever. It will never, ever get better- Reagan was probably the last chance, but he wasn't very serious and didn't do much domestically.

Just fighting a rear guard action here. Still worth while, but reversal won't happen.

jsid-1210893033-592091  DJ at Thu, 15 May 2008 23:10:33 +0000

Here's a scenario (mind you, I'm not predicting, I'm just imagining ...):

The Democrats gain a bigger majority in both the House and the Senate, and Senator Messiah becomes President Messiah. Among the first orders of business is, while they have a clear majority and considerations of veto override are moot, they reverse the Bush tax cuts. Suddenly, everyone's taxes go up, and six million taxpayers who were removed from the tax rolls by the Bush tax cuts start paying taxes again.

Then comes the 2010 mid-term elections. It would be a letter-perfect opportunity for the Republicans to grow a set of spines, embrace and campaign for the Fair Tax, and take back the House and Senate thereby.

Then again, maybe pigs will sprout wings and fly.

jsid-1210896753-592094  juris_imprudent at Fri, 16 May 2008 00:12:33 +0000

I'm betting on the pigs DJ.

jsid-1210901218-592099  DJ at Fri, 16 May 2008 01:26:58 +0000

Well, so am I, but I can dream, can't I?

Think of it, and do so independently of your own opinions of the Fair Tax. Approach it from the point of view of an opportunity for Mr. Republican Candidate et al. After two years of Democrats hiking the liberal shit out of taxes, what better issue than to shitcan damned nearly the whole lot of taxes and let you keep ALL your income? It's an opportunity the likes of which a political party seldom sees and the Republicans will probably not see it.

What was that saying by Einstein about doing the same ol' shit, over and over again? Will they ever learn?

jsid-1210909066-592105  juris_imprudent at Fri, 16 May 2008 03:37:46 +0000

It's an opportunity the likes of which a political party seldom sees and the Republicans will probably not see it.

They will see it, and they will reject it. Because what they learned in their years in power was not what you and I would call the error of their ways - but that they didn't pander hard enough. You know, "do it again, but HARDER".

Sometimes I hate being so cynical - particularly when I'm right.

jsid-1210947271-592114  DJ at Fri, 16 May 2008 14:14:31 +0000

"They will see it, and they will reject it."

It's gonna be interesting, ain't it?

jsid-1211082061-592145  Mastiff at Sun, 18 May 2008 03:41:01 +0000


A book I read on the recommendation of the Instafather was The Collapse of Complex Societies by Joseph Tainter. Reading his description of the latter days of the Romans and the Mayans in particular, I became thoroughly disenchanted with the fantasy of the people rising up in tax revolt.

It can happen, to be sure—Proposition 13 in California is an example dear to my heart. But it is by no means inevitable. Indeed, I would say that the norm is quite the opposite.

jsid-1211160213-592161  DJ at Mon, 19 May 2008 01:23:33 +0000

I 'spect you're right, but as I said before, but I can dream, can't I?

jsid-1211244298-592189  DJ at Tue, 20 May 2008 00:44:58 +0000

This ought to be a Quote of the Day:

"Obama is the least qualified serious contender for the Presidency from either party that I can recall in my lifetime. And that includes Ross Perot."

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