JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2007/11/government-must-have-monopoly-on-force.html (13 comments)

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jsid-1195176304-583713  DJ at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:25:04 +0000

Apparently he doesn't even understand independence. Why would someone want to be, in effect, a slave?

jsid-1195211848-583723  AlanDP at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:17:28 +0000

Thank you.

jsid-1195218382-583725  the pistolero at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:06:22 +0000

That was indeed an awesome slideshow. What I never understood though, was if those people don't like the way we do things here, why in the hell don't they go to one of those places in which the government has that monopoly on force?

jsid-1195223495-583734  Mark Alger at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:31:35 +0000

Actually, your headline -- and one presumes the lackwit quoted -- has it wrong. The concept is that government must have a monopoly on the INITIATION of the use of force.

For reasons that ought to be obvious.

But that may be too long a sentence and thus too complex a concept for leftists to comprehend.

It does NOT extend from there to government's having a monopoly on ALL force. These things need to be balanced -- as any good system engineer can tell you -- or they go all wibberty-jobberty and come off their mounts. Never a pretty picture.


jsid-1195224369-583736  geekWithA.45 at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:46:09 +0000

"The Government Must NOT Have a Monopoly on Force"

There, I fixed it for him.

jsid-1195249855-583768  DirtCrashr at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:50:55 +0000

Not, no, none, never-ever.

jsid-1195250073-583770  -B at Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:54:33 +0000

I wonder if Ladd Everitt has covered his more recent world history?

Ya see, there was this guy name Mao, and he had this idea....

jsid-1195259561-583780  Oz at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:32:41 +0000

I wouldn't even concede that much, Mark. No person or group of people has the right to initiate force against anyone.

jsid-1195263621-583782  Kevin Baker at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:40:21 +0000


In an ideal world, no.

Since when did anyone live in an ideal world?

jsid-1195267225-583784  Oz at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:40:25 +0000

Honestly, I can't think of a time where it's acceptable. One could make the argument for preemptive acts, but aren't these really responses to threats?

jsid-1195269408-583789  Kevin Baker at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:16:48 +0000

A "threat" is not "initiation of force."

At least not in my dictionary.

If someone threatens to rob me - at some point in the future - I am not justified in using force against that person.

If I believe another nation will probably use a nuclear weapon against me should they manufacture one, am I justified in using force to prevent that?

Ask Israel.

jsid-1195269949-583791  Oldsmoblogger at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:25:49 +0000

I thought about writing Mr. Everitt to say, "**** you. Strong letter to follow," but I decided my time was better spent writing my senators to ask them to oppose Sullivan.

jsid-1195352514-583827  DJ at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:21:54 +0000

Well, here's a simple scenario:

You and your child are in the living room of your home. Your CC weapon is on the table beside you. A man opens your front door, which is not locked, walks in, sees your child, and says, "I'm going to strangle your child."

Do you have the right to pick up your weapon and shoot him to prevent the attack that he has threatened, but so far has not initiated? Remember, he has not used any "force" so far, as your front door was not locked, he hasn't touched anyone, and he hasn't moved since making his threat.

By my rules, you're goddamned right you do, and by the laws of the State of Oklahoma, you would have an affirmative defense.

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