JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2007/11/boy-its-good-thing-britains-banned-guns.html (11 comments)

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jsid-1195279859-583794  LabRat at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:10:59 +0000

I don't normally make comparisons to dystopian fiction- so cliche, don't ya know- but this is making me flash back HARD to "Clockwork Orange"... except not even Anthony Burgess imagined that they'd cede total victory to Alex and his friends.

jsid-1195314681-583798  knirirr at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:51:21 +0000

indulging in anti-social behaviour fuelled by cheap alcohol

Luckily for us the government is planning to heavily tax "cheap" alcohol, so that it will be far too expensive for such people to purchase. Thus, we will all be safe.
I feel so much better knowing this. Honest.

jsid-1195320176-583801  Kevin P. at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:22:56 +0000

I wonder if Tim Lambert will be in here, claiming that there is no right to self - defense in Great Britain.

The UK is serving a laboratory for what happens when you give up your guns for the promise of government protection.

I cannot imagine this incident happening in the Barbarian Republic of Texas where I live. In fact, when Mr. Walton of Dallas shot and killed two burglars in three weeks, the response of the local constabulary was:

"He's got a right to defend his property. What gives a stranger the right to go in and vandalize or burglarize his business?" said Dallas police Sgt. Gene Reyes. "He's within every legal right to do this."

Perhaps we Barbarians have the right idea.

jsid-1195323408-583806  Ninth Stage at Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:16:48 +0000

Smeaton is a hero because he attacked a threat to the crown. If he had injured a "yob" who was attacking an old lady he'd likely not be such a hero.

jsid-1195345819-583821  Bilgeman at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:30:19 +0000

Open Warning to Incoming British Emigres.

I can read your codes.

When you talk about emigrating here to escape the yobs and the other predators your society has tolerated, that's all well and good.

Have a care, though, that you do not beocme a voice calling to re-create the very thing that you are running away from.

The United States isn't Britain, and nor shall it be.

We've quite enough home-grown of that sort here already.

Kindly remember that.

jsid-1195349516-583825  Kevin Baker at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:31:56 +0000

The overwhelming majority, Bilgeman, go to Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.

The US is too "Wild West" for them, and those other countries are still part of the Commonwealth, so emigration is easier.

jsid-1195355307-583829  Bilgeman at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:08:27 +0000


"The overwhelming majority, Bilgeman, go to Australia, New Zealand, and Canada."

I know, but that means that they're really not running that far at all.

At least in Oz, they'll be rubbing shoulders with expat Afrikaaners.
And that's a completely different kettle of fish.

I give you KduT...

jsid-1195357910-583830  Mister Sam at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:51:50 +0000

Barbarian Republic of Texas, eh? I'm from there... I'm currently in Connecticut, which is... a joke. People here are afraid to make eye contact. Last time I was in Texas (Dallas) watching the news. Some guy was kicking in someone's door at 3am. So the owner shot through the door. They had the 911 call on the news station.

Wife (on the phone): "Is he still there?!"


Husband: "I think I shot him." (perfectly calm, serene)


Husband: "Aww.. man. I didn't think he was that tall."

Haha.. god I love that state.

jsid-1195398110-583846  Phil B at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:01:50 +0000

"In the last century the Police made a fundamental contract with us the public, if we gave up our arms they would protect our property and persons."

No! This was imposed by faceless bureaucrats who took the decision that they knew best and that a disarmed population was "A Good Thing" principally so the State could not be overthrown.

The first Firearms laws were introduced in 1920 because the Government of the day was terrified of Revolution - having observed what had happened in Russia. It was touted as a crime prevention measure. Due to the Official Secrets act it was buried ubnder the 60 year rule and the papers recording the decision were not released until 1981 when the truth became known.

The Chief Police Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police at the time stated "we should confiscate all the guns and in the event of Revolution, dish them out to Tory (conservative) supporters".

The break up of the British Empire in the late 1940's and early 1950's also contributed. When the bureaucrats were who ran the colonies were repatriated, jobs had to be found for them. They were used to ordering "the Wogs" around and havign autocratic powers. They found positions in the Home Office (which regulates the Police, firearms control etc) and treated the population in the same way as their previous charges.

No one wqas asked if the supposed contract should be introduced, there was no vote, no referendum. nada!

It has been peddled by the same bureaucrats as a contract but like everything else relating to firearms in the Unhinged Kingdom, it is a lie.

jsid-1195426256-583866  FabioC. at Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:50:56 +0000

I recall seeing a BBC reality show in which your typical London family was sent to do a cultural exchange in the USA with a local family - Arizona, I think.

One of the activities was a day at the range, of course. A British young girl was scared of firing a big rifle, and that's ok. Other younglings were more enthusiast about firearms, instead.

What upset me was the late 20's englishman who didn't want to touch one of those evil oppressive things. Sissy.

jsid-1200991721-586747  sanchez "Jack" at Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:48:41 +0000

I think one of Swelling's (or whatever his name is) friends was released and nearly killed a 60 year old woman. A number of people in the comments section seemed to support the idea of bringing back the death penalty.

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