JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2007/08/cognitive-dissonance.html (6 comments)

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jsid-1188179012-578976  Vinnie at Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:43:32 +0000


"Even a poor-quality Tokarev used to cost 200,000-300,000 yen, yen" says another of Weekly Playboy's gang sources. "Now you can get a really good Makarov for 50,000 yen."
Google says:
50 000 Japanese yen = 417 U.S. dollars

So Japan has more draconian gun laws and cheaper milsurp than england OR the USA.

jsid-1188179992-578977  Kevin Baker at Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:59:52 +0000

Well, my Bulgarian Mak was about $180, so they ain't quite there.


For ¥50,000 it had better come with a holster and an extra magazine, not to mention a box of ammo.

jsid-1188184330-578985  Stingray at Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:12:10 +0000

"Yet gun prices are barely above American retail, and fully-automatic weapons can cost less than a handgun."

Your faith in the accurate reporting of those who are, amazingly, even less informed than our own reporters and media is amazing. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if a semi-auto Airsoft pistol fell into the same category for a reporter as a nice Ma Deuce. The situation is obviously laughably bad, but I still instinctively have a hard time believing something with an auto sear goes for less than a regular pistol.

Then again, if I read in a newspaper that the sun was expected to rise in the east tomorrow morning, I'd still find a compass and set my alarm.

jsid-1188188251-578987  Kevin Baker at Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:17:31 +0000

"The situation is obviously laughably bad, but I still instinctively have a hard time believing something with an auto sear goes for less than a regular pistol."

I wouldn't. You forget, Stingray, the proximity of England to EUnuchistan, and the recent collapse of the Soviet bloc. There have been a number of full-auto incidents in England within the last several years, perhaps the most famous one occurring at a New Years party in 2003. They're smuggling them in trucks carrying frozen pizzas. (You have to wonder how many shipments customs missed, don't you?) I mean, if it's a five-year sentence if you're caught with a Lorcin, why not buy an Uzi?

I understand your skepticism WRT the media, but this does not raise my BS meter given all I've seen going on over there.

Plus, you missed the point of the second news story. Lots of pistols in the £50 range, not the £800 range for "military style" pistols. (I would assume full-size, 15 round capacity 9mm pistols like a Beretta 92.)

Of course, then there's the MOST TERRIFYING GUN IN THE WORLD!!!!

jsid-1188235328-579008  Stingray at Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:22:08 +0000

Ok, fair enough on the imports. But I still don't think a reporter could tell the difference between a lorcin and an uzi. ;)

jsid-1188243009-579021  BobG at Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:30:09 +0000

"Do it again, only HARDER!"

Sort of reminds me of the old carpenter joke, "I've cut this board three times, and it's still too short!"

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