JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2004/02/spin-spin-spin-couple-of-posts-down-is.html (7 comments)

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jsid-1076571604-257297  Kevin P. at Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:40:04 +0000

I was the person who called Vizzard a gun control flunky. In retrospect, I should not have used the word flunky, which is insulting and not germane to the debate. So I withdraw that term unreservedly and apologize to Mr. Vizzard should he ever read this.

However, I will stand by the assertion that he is a gun control advocate. He is a rarity, an informed and knowledgeable gun control advocate, probably because of his career in the ATF. His performance in the PBS ballistic fingerprinting debate was fair and accurate - but it is something that should be expected and demanded of everyone.

This is a review of Mr. Vizzard's book by Dave Kopel:

jsid-1076592122-257300  Kevin Baker at Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:22:02 +0000

Thanks, Kevin. That's a very interesting review, and much in keeping with the impression I got from the NewsHour transcript.

jsid-1076593586-257301  JS at Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:46:26 +0000

I live in a state that is laying off teachers because of budget shortfalls and enacts this kind of lunacy. http://www.direct-action.org/mspscan3.pdf Now it wants to ban all semiautomatics and register all in civilian’s possession. When I ask legislators where will you get the funds for this I get the deer in the headlight look.

jsid-1076596855-257302  Kevin Baker at Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:40:55 +0000

JS: Thanks. Your link is a different source for the last fingerprinting report referenced in my post.

jsid-1076694346-257309  Raging Dave at Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:45:46 +0000

Doesn't the ballistic fingerprint change over time? Or hell, you can do a quick little job on your barrel and change the ballistics of the round. The ballistic database would be worthless.

You can't change your fingerprints, unless you burn your fingers off. But you can change the barrel of your gun quite easily.

jsid-1076785648-257316  Kevin Baker at Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:07:28 +0000

I made mention of that fact above, Dave. For semi-auto pistols, changing the "fingerprint" is as simple as swapping barrels and slides, because the characteristic markings are left by those pieces, but the frame of the gun is the part that carries the serial number. With revolvers it's more difficult, but with revolvers you don't get cartridge cases left at the scene.

If you don't want to leave any possibly traceable ballistic evidence at the scene at all, use a sawed-off double-barreled shotgun.

Ballistic data analysis of evidence left at the scene of a crime is a useful tool. Attempting to "fingerprint" every gun in the U.S., or just every new gun, or even just every new handgun is a boondoggle that would make Canada's simple registration fiasco pale by comparison.

jsid-1076970729-257334  Kim du Toit at Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:32:09 +0000

Anyone who works for the fucking BATFE is a gun control flunky.

End of story.

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