JS-Kit/Echo comments for article at http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003/12/pressing-reset-button-last-week-jay.html (12 comments)

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jsid-1071324341-256747  geekWithA.45 at Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:05:41 +0000

I think this is a pattern that we're going to be seeing.

In my experimental opinion, which I'm trying on for size, we're currently in a cold civil war, statists vs nonstatists, that's been bubbling up for at least 30 years.

It's likely to turn sporadically hot, here and there along the way.

When it does, many cases are going to strike us as "less valid" rather than "more valid".

What's going to happen is that hot conflict will initially appear around the "border cases", when decent LEO's enforcing what we would view as "mildy repugnant" but tolerable laws come up against people for whom little public sympathy would exist, people who have also "drawn the line" well outside the area that more responsible people would.

The result will be cases that look like the Greenwood case, wherein the moral clarity of their actions will be ambiguous at best. We are wise to take it as a warning sign.

Between the extreme where everything is proper and just on the on

jsid-1071324375-256748  geekWithA.45 at Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:06:15 +0000

Part 2

Between the extreme where everything is proper and just on the one hand, and the other extreme where the molestation is so widespread or outrageous that even the mildest pacifist would agree it's time to fight, there's a lot of room for the State to explore abuse of it's citizens.

In fact, that threshold is pretty high. A government can massively abuse a small number of people, as long as it's not widespread, and get away with it. Similarly, they can mildly mistreat everyone on a widespread basis without tripping the "outrage" switch.

This dynamic, I remind people, was even noted in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence:

all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed

jsid-1071355680-256751  Rhett at Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:48:00 +0000

Wow! This is all pretty amazing. I am a criminal justice student with B+ grades and I can't even tell you how this could be handled. It's possible, but not likely, that the judge could dismiss this if Mr. Bixby was telling the truth and the agents barreled into the house without a gun. Having no legal standing to be inside constitutes a home invasion and as such is justifiable to shoot them in most any but the liberalist of states. (Even Mass. recognises this.) But judges and juries have a bias toward the officers and less so toward the defendants in such cases. The problem is is who is gonna cover the LEO's butts'? If everyone lies about the agent charging into the house and if on-scene evidence is inconclusive the Bixby's may be up a creek without a paddle.

jsid-1071361749-256749  Kevin Baker at Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:29:09 +0000

Warrant or no warrant, Bixby's screwed for shooting Constable Ouzts.

And he should be. That was stupid.

jsid-1071379501-256752  Rhett at Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:25:01 +0000

Yeah, if they can prove that he was shot in the back,(pretty easy,) then he will get it.

I'm kinda curious as to the weaponry the police and the Bixby's used. Sounds like they weren't all that accurate.

jsid-1071496073-256758  The Cabinet Man at Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:47:53 +0000

You quote GeekWithA45:

"The fact that things have gone so far south in some places that people actually feel compelled to move the fuck out should frighten the almighty piss out of you."

You might be interested in a very long guest-post I did over at WeckUpToThees.

Yup, I'm outta' here...

jsid-1071536793-256760  Raging Dave at Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:06:33 +0000

It's interesting, all right. I myself have bought land in Idaho, with the purpose of moving there. But even in Idaho things aren't perfect.

I wouldn't even think of moving to a place like MA, or ML, or NJ due to the fact that I can't carry a gun. My girlfriend feels the same way. And in the back of my head, I have to wonder, just when those who put a shackle around their neck are going to try to shackle me. Because I won't be shackled. I'll hit that "Reset Button".

So I guess I do see the Reset Button being hit in the future. I just don't know when.

jsid-1171341450-550971  framarlow at Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:37:30 +0000

Steven Bixby shot the officer at point blank range and then pulled him into the house. The other Deputy was shot as he came to look for the first officer. He turned to run and was shot in the back. The mother had called a place in Columbia and said they were barricaded in the home and were involved in a shootout. She had left the home and gone to some apartments and said she was going to start killing folks there if her husband and son were hurt. This wasn't defending their home. This was straight up murder.

jsid-1172012421-551312  s at Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:00:21 +0000

I am really happy the Bixbys took the action they did. Its heart warming to know they stood up to the tyrant pigs. Its just unfortunate that the burocrats who set this land grab up were not murdered. But at least they got a couple cops...

I'm going to leave this comment up, but you "s" are a fucking moron. And your IP is hereby banned.

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jsid-1172393742-551524  Richard at Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:55:42 +0000

Steven Bixby followed the path that his mother Rita made for him as a child and was brain washed by her teachings.
The end result being that two law officers are dead and Bixby faces death by injection...Perhaps it is time to lock and load

jsid-1172419856-551532  Kevin Baker at Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:10:56 +0000

Meaning what, exactly?

jsid-1216283564-594321  cmblake6 at Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:32:44 +0000

Here it is 4 1/2 years later. It sounds, from the comments, that that was a very bad shoot on the Bixby part. I was not a reader back then(best I can remember) of your blog, so I missed it. However, the fact remains that eventually the "reset button" WILL be pushed. There are still those in America that value freedom, and are finally awakening to the erosion.If only the MILITARY would HONOR THEIR OATH OF ENLISTMENT, we may get off much more easily. We have the intel, the comm, and the weapons to clean this up before the rest of the world even knows it's happening. I think we even have enough decent honorable members of Congress to keep the government running in a sufficient fashion until we can replace the rest.

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